https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Initial_coin_offering Niekoniecznie scam, ale uwzględniając to co dziennikarz znalazł, dość prawdopodobne. Najbardziej niepokojące są punkty 4 i 5. Brak obrazka z 6, ale pewnie też może wskazywać na scam. Mało niepokojący jest punkt 3.1, bo pewnie potrzebowali firmy w UK dopiero teraz (lepsze podatki, dostęp do międzynarodowych rynków, giełdy UK, itp.), ale 3.2 może być niebezpieczne, jeżeli główna firma nie ma bezpośredniej kontroli nad tą w UK – np. przez udziały, zarząd, itp.
Also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advance-fee_scam https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matrix_scheme
On 11 October 2017 at 12:12, rysiek rysiek@hackerspace.pl wrote:
Cześć,
jeden z dziennikarzy z którymi pracujemy zainteresował się TokenDeskiem: https://www.tokendesk.io/
Pachnie mu to (i mi zresztą też) scamem, ale chce się upewnić. Czy któryś z naszych cryptocoin mavenów mógłby rzucić okiem i dać znać co sądzi? Also, czy mogę kogoś spiknąć z dziennikarzem bezpośrednio? Also, poniżej "red flags", które dziennikarz sam wylistował.
Dajcie znać. KTHX!
I was wondering if you could help me out with one thing. There's this Lithuanian cryptocurrency initiative https://www.tokendesk.io. These guys claim to be supersuccessfull and modern etc., but I think it's a big scam. My indications for scam:
- They claim to be doing an ICO for their 'tokens', but they have no
actual tokens. You pay for something that is supposed to be produced some time in 2018. 2. SmartContract, common in the cryptocurrency business, is something they don't have. 3. They have published only a few official documents, one of them being the 'whitepaper':https://www.tokendesk.io/docs/Whitepaper.pdf. There, these guys claim the owner of the 'tokens' is a British company called TokenDesk Ltd. (page 20). This company does exist, but (1) it has only been founded a couple of weeks ago, while they have been advertising for months and (2) the company is registered under the ownership of one of their middle managers, not one of the serious top management dudes. 4. At least two people tied to Russian banks shut down for money laundering are involved. These guys don't appear on their website, but I have definite proof of their involvement. 5. Their domain is registered under a service provider that cloaks the real owner. Not exactly a red flag, but it does cause further suspicion. 6. (the biggest fun so far) Some American guy did a prank on them. With a fake account, he engaged them as a client willing to buy some 'tokens'. And here's what he got: [image: Inline images 1] First, Vytenis Maziulis is one of the two guys with money laundering in their bio. Second, UAB Tavlinas is a company that sells spice from Latvia (not the spice from Dune). This is not something I would expect from a cryptocurrency initiative.
I really need your help here. These guys claim to have accumulated several million bucks by now. If it's a scam, I need to jump in ASAP to prevent further people from losing their money.
-- Pozdravi, rashiq
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